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For Sale, my Mk3 Swing (Swenson and Ingram) 7.62 X 51 Target rifle.

Mk3 Swing action, worked by Robert Nibbs, (so the 4 lug action is smooth to open and close, I know, rare for a Swing!!), fitted with a Davies trigger, and a Palma twist Border barrel with a logged 185 shots through it, all fitted in a Walther prone stock, adjustable cheek piece (by spacers) and a Gehmann butt plate, and Wilkes sights.

A thoroughly sorted NRA target Rifle, asking £1500 ono.

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Hi do you have some pics & does it have an adjustable foresight?, front rear irises? a vented TR stock? also what type of bolt retaining lug the block or spring version? also if a new barrel the make / length / twist & who fitted it?  Many thanks Phil 

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23 minutes ago, Hitchphil said:

Hi do you have some pics & does it have an adjustable foresight?, front rear irises? a vented TR stock? also what type of bolt retaining lug the block or spring version? also if a new barrel the make / length / twist & who fitted it?  Many thanks Phil 

Phil,

The ad states the barrel is a Border. A "Palma" twist sounds like a 13T, although I know some who run a 12T for long range. 

I think from Robin''s previous comments the stock is a KK-UIT. Walther did make the KK Prone 400, a specialist prone stock very similar to the Anschutz 1811, but these make hens' teeth look common.

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Phil

The stock is indeed the Walther KK 1980's vintage prone Walnut stock,  right handed, not vented, TR is only a 10 or 15 shot match series,  the cheek piece is adjustable by placing spacers underneath.

I have not a clue what you mean by the bolt type, its a standard 4 lug  Swing bolt re worked by Robert Nibbs to match the Davies trigger, and most importantly to be opened easily by a normal human being by hand (and with out steroids), and not need a mallet or pipe extension like many Swings do!  The front sight is an 18 mm Anschutz tunnel, with an adjustable iris, the rear is a Wilkes with a five hole eye piece.

The barrel is a stainless Border (an original company one) 1 - 13 twist, 26.5 ins long, tapering from action dia to 20 mm at muzzle. It was fitted by Chris Behn and proofed by the London Proof house. It was run in meticulously and exceedingly boringly, and has had all shots logged from new at 185. It shoots very well with GGG ammo.

Why sell if its that good? My favourite event is ISSF 300 mt, I have decided to have a new TR 7.62 rifle built by my 300 mt rifle supplier Keppeler as close to my 300mt as possible just with a 1500 gm trigger and in 7.62 so I can get some uniformity going from one to the other.

If you are genuinely interested I will be at Bisley 28th/29th shooting 300 mt, you can shoot it  on the 28th if you arrange a target and have an SCC and are an NRA member. We will be at the 300 mt shed this weekend if you wish to chat, but will not have this rifle with me.

If you would like pictures email me on robin.carter80@ntlworld.com , I tried putting them on here and they are too big and I have no idea how to reduce them!

Have Fun

Robin

 

 

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41 minutes ago, tim s said:

Phil,

The ad states the barrel is a Border. A "Palma" twist sounds like a 13T, although I know some who run a 12T for long range. 

I think from Robin''s previous comments the stock is a KK-UIT. Walther did make the KK Prone 400, a specialist prone stock very similar to the Anschutz 1811, but these make hens' teeth look common.

a 12/28" would be a good long range gun, & a 13/30" a good all range :-) & the stock sounds interesting :-) Border haven't made barrels for ~3-4 years i think so the pedigree of it would be good to know. I have a member tres interested so

 

25 minutes ago, RobinC said:

Phil

The stock is indeed the Walther KK 1980's vintage prone Walnut stock,  right handed, not vented, TR is only a 10 or 15 shot match series,  the cheek piece is adjustable by placing spacers underneath.

I have not a clue what you mean by the bolt type, its a standard 4 lug  Swing bolt re worked by Robert Nibbs to match the Davies trigger, and most importantly to be opened easily by a normal human being by hand (and with out steroids), and not need a mallet or pipe extension like many Swings do!  The front sight is an 18 mm Anschutz tunnel, with an adjustable iris, the rear is a Wilkes with a five hole eye piece.

The barrel is a stainless Border (an original company one) 1 - 13 twist, 26.5 ins long, tapering from action dia to 20 mm at muzzle. It was fitted by Chris Behn and proofed by the London Proof house. It was run in meticulously and exceedingly boringly, and has had all shots logged from new at 185. It shoots very well with GGG ammo.

Why sell if its that good? My favourite event is ISSF 300 mt, I have decided to have a new TR 7.62 rifle built by my 300 mt rifle supplier Keppeler as close to my 300mt as possible just with a 1500 gm trigger and in 7.62 so I can get some uniformity going from one to the other.

If you are genuinely interested I will be at Bisley 28th/29th shooting 300 mt, you can shoot it  on the 28th if you arrange a target and have an SCC and are an NRA member. We will be at the 300 mt shed this weekend if you wish to chat, but will not have this rifle with me.

Have Fun

Robin

 

 

Hi its for a mate - pictures will probably convince them to sell; the wife, motorbike or other gun  ...............am indeed down then & can have a look, why dont you come to the NRA 100 Sunday afternoon 29th - 4 & 10 prone, standing & kneeling at 300yds with it :-) £24 & any ammo.............  even mixed types standing is fine! (I have RCO/SSC/NRA..etc).

am shooting my Anschutz 22 at 300 & 400 yds Sat pm so will wander over after say hello. 

Re bolt bit early Mk 3 the bolt retaining lug is a plug on a leaf spring, later & Mk 4 a round piston in a block - its the thing u pull out to get the bolt out of it....... rest of the description sounds good, am trying to build a minds eye picture - thumb-hole or pistol grip Walther?

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Thanks Phil

I'm afraid I think these long barrel lengths is old fashioned bull****,  the twist is the important thing to match the ammo weight and speed, the burn is long over by the length many run,  I work on balance and sight base, the 13 twist on a 26 is near enough perfect, it shoots possibles at 600 when I point it at the middle. The stock is a standard Walther UIT prone stock from the 80's, deep pistol grip, parallel rounded fore end,  a bit wide for me, I nearly ground the fore end slimmer as I have small hands, but never got around to it, now just as well!

Chris bought a stock of Borders before they collapsed and ours were the last of his stock,  so we had the last of the Kolbe Borders, fitted the beginning of last year. The bolt retaining is a leaf spring. It went to Robert as my wife could not open the bolt, usual Swing wrestling job, its now a rare Swing, smooth (for a Swing) bolt opening.

I took some pics today, email me and I'll crash your computer for you with an overload.

We are shooting both days 28th/29th so no time, but you are welcome to visit, you may be glad to if its raining! I'll make space and take it down. I think we have a match Sat afternoon but its only last an hour.

Old farts, we now only do prone. Be a busy week end this weekend as well, I have a new 6 mmBR barrel to run in, and that's only 22 ins!

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