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Ok, thanks for all the replies and suggestions so far
A quick update. I have compared the original bedding bolts for the stock with the new stock. They are looking like about 5mm too short. The rear bolt (trigger guard) is 37mm long (from the underside of the head) with 10mm of thread. The front one (recessed) is 26mm long with 8.5mm of thread. The slots on these bolts are in really good condition (typical!).
Apologies for confusing folk by me mentioning Belleville washers and thanks to hps for the mental trigger
. This stock is of course (!) too early for the allen headed bolts, and would have had (does have!) slotted heads - I just thought allen heads would be a choice upgrade that could be made seeing as we need new bolts. I was then sidetracked as I recall another stock we swapped out in the same way having the Belleville washers, but as hps states, this particular stock was from an 1813 rifle. N.B. the washer stack is held captive by pinch marks made on the shank of the bolt itself.So, I reckon I need bolts measuring 42mm and 31mm.
Phil, if you're offering, make them slightly longer and I'll take them down as required and can you make the longer one countersunk so it looks better on the trigger guard. Pocket money waiting
Nick, cheers for broadening the knowledge base, good Q. My understanding has always been along the lines Tim stated. As the wooden stock swells and shrinks with moisture, the Belleville washer stack maintains the correct bedding torque throughout. The washers are angled (directional) and the stack is a combination of washers facing either direction.
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Thanks Tim, that's good to know. The slots could always be widened and deepened I'm sure. The original stock is (we believe) original with the model 1411 Match 54 (mfcr 1965) action and is a plain prone stock.
Ok, any other tidbits folks?
H.
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Quick straw poll folks, we have a committee meeting on Friday to discuss the way forward.
I am obliged to look a (not entirely free) gift horse in the mouth as the club has been offered a Supermatch stock, but it appears the bedding bolts do not come with it (or cannot now be found...).
There was some very good information in this previous thread, but it may now be somewhat dated (and no price from Mister Neesom was given, that being seemingly the easiest route).
I think these bolts should also have the Belleville washer stack?
I would prefer Allen head, but obviously I will take slotted if that is what's on offer. Anyone got any lying around (particularly on an it-fits-or-return basis
) or know of any outlets carrying stock?No rush on getting them, just need to know that we can and how much the club's outlay may be.
Many thanks,
H.
Edit: I should add this is to swap out a standard stock for the better SM - for which I believe the bolts are different - and then we can pass on the old stock (with bolts!) to someone else.
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Indeed, I bought some Gemini buttplate links from him the other week
Shame he'd run out of bipods though, I'm looking for another Gemini (as much as his version very close) with the long legs.
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Ok, so slightly suprised by the interest this is generating, but to clarify for the various PMs I've received, these are the bits the club has
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All proceeds (as and when) to the club's coffers.
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Not ATM Michelle (offer pending) but that does seem to be the bit in demand!
I would have thought if you have the middle section with the set screws, then some alu rod of a suitable dia. would see you right. You could bend the alu rod too.
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The L is also wider (which I haven't a comparison shot of)
L size grip from underneath:
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It's highly probable that my club has all the parts you are after but I will need to check.
I checked. We have! Also the main fixing bolt and knuckle (first aluminium part) if anyone else is looking
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Well, thanks to nicklock, I have a L that fits me and he has a M that fits him (nice to meet you at the weekend, sir
). Case closed!For interest, here's some (iffy) shots of the two grips, (cork in the M). Doesn't look like much in it, but the L is also wider (which I haven't a comparison shot of):
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I could well be now!
PM on its way
(Folk on this forum are a w e s o m e !!)
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I modified a M grip with Milliput in black to achieve the size & shape I wanted. About 1 hours work in total.
Good tip, but my pinkie hangs off the bottom
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Bump.
I can't believe no-one's bought a Precise with the wrong grip size...
...just me then
Any RH L's out there wanna swap with an M - pretty please?
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It's highly probable that my club has all the parts you are after but I will need to check.
We hold the rifles offsite so things like butthooks just get in the way for transportation, so we have removed them. I will check their whereabouts whilst you ping me an offer
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PM sent (patiently behind Tim
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the action would not carry a date of manufacture
Was not disagreeing with this Tim, just countering the 'highly unlikely' aspect of barrel swapping
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The action should be older than 1996 if it's an 1813.
It's possible to put an 1813 barrel in a 1913 receiver, but I think this is highly unlikely.
I know of a 1907 action (from this very forum) with an 1807 barrel (barrel dated 1982). Ex-Bill Phelps. I believe the thinking was 18-series barrels were better.
Edited for clarity
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Thanks, although it was a selfless question; I have 4 Duo Varios already, great bits of kit
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Foresight
Are you including the [white plastic] tool to allow the crosshairs to be selectable?
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Whilst prepping club Annies for a 200 yard comp last night, the rearsight bottomed out on a Match 54 when using a borrowed 8mm raiser, so maybe it's to do with that (we didn't manage to check check if the sight would take just being raised within its own travel as an alternative)?
Slight thread hijack though
- looking for a couple of Anschutz 8mm sight raisers for the club if anyone has a full bits box...please PM. -
Bump. Still hoping...
Bedding Bolts For Match 54 In Supermatch Stock
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Good spot, still £6.50 delivery though